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Nice work Mark, great upload. And thanks for all you do free for the golfing community free of charge. I’m not in the uk that often but the next time I’m over I’m def going up for a lesson. Keep up the great work.
Mark, great video as always. I have a question about alignment. I can’t seem to get my club face set up square to the target line at address. I always seem to set up with my shoulders and hips squared up but the the club face closed (even though it feels square to me). Any tips on how to fight this perception that square “seems” open?
Hey Mark. Been trying to figure out my over the top for over a year now. In none of these things that you talk about. I’m an early extender too. But what about dropping the arms done at the top of the back swing to get on plane. Is that something to try or do?
Thanks for answering my question Mark, I like the 2nd drill with the hips a lot and it has been a focus of mine as of late. As far as understanding face to path, I have a pretty good understanding of what you are saying there, but putting it into practice is something else. Anyways, I will try the drills as suggested.
the only problem that I see day to day is that golfers can not drop the club at the top due to poor body turns and body side bends. The problem is a lot deeper for many golfers.
Hi Mark. Thanks for bringing up my quostion. What you say about club head and path makes sence. Great drills - I will take it to the range, and yes, I can even practice “the hip drill
hi mark,
what if your “coming over the top” but the clubface is closed or neutral to the path? it would be a pull, right (for right-handed golfers)!?
in that case the release would be fine, you just have to correct the path by coming from the inside by doing the second part of the fix, or droping the club like lain m said!?
Interesting video – I have a history of over-the-top nastiness resulting in throwing the club out during the downswing and an out-to-in swingpath. What really has helped me is stopping swinging down with my arms and turning my body instead – pulling my arms down and keeping the club on the right path. I had my best session at the range for a long time yesterday by keeping this single swing thought in my head – anyway – thats what seems to work for me.
Hi Mark. From my experience 99% of OTT moves are the result of a lack of ground pressures & connection to the ground. The swing is a battle of forces vs pressure. If there is too much force OTT is the result. Think of building a skyscraper, if there is no foundation (ground pressure) it’ll collapse. The greater your ground pressures the more acceleration your swing can deal with, and the taller you can build that skyscraper! All the best, great to see someone helping golfers for free 🙂
He didnt say Sergio drops the club – he said Sergio gave a great tip about dropping the club as a thought ‘aid’ Everything else youve said in this and your other comment is, respectfully, bollox! lol
Please explain to me how its bollocks? Every pro on tour initiate’s transition by applying pressure into the ground. Any martial artist will tell you the same. You need to be rooted into the ground in order for an affective transferrence of power. power comes from the ground up. To answer you question, I’m not a pro, but I play off +1. I’ve earned this knowledge. All the best
Hmmm, skipping a debate are we because you are ignorant to the true workings of the swing? I’ll put it in car terms for you. Take a C63 AMG. It can only transfer as much power to the road as its tyres will allow. Too much torque and it’ll wheelspin. In a turn it’ll oversteer. An oversteering car will always arc out thanks to centrifugal force… OTT. Put some slicks on it and you raise the grip, thus the tyres can handle a greater loading. Anchor the swing right from set-up, trust me
not skipping a debate – there is no debate – what you say is irrellevant, just another sadwit using the anomonity of t’internet to seek some selth worth by purporting to be of authority. So far weve had expert amateur golfer, indication of some knowledge of martial arts and now the physics involved in high end cars!! lol youve just compared an oversteering car to someone swinging over the top!!! lmao You are a beautiful example of why cousins shouldn’t breed!
That answer is not relevant and a bit pathetic… if being incredibly good at putting is all the necessary for becoming a great player, than today’s golf has just become a dull game (and unfortunately… maybe it is)
hmmm way to miss the point!! I guess sarcasm doesn’t translate well in type. Is it even possible to have a black belt in putting? lol The sarcy comment was in response to the martial artist crap the other div was harking on about – I can only assume your the sibling spawned by the cousins from whose loins Nobbo also sprang forth from!
Wow what a pleasent person you must be. resulting to personal insults from the safety of a keyboard because you cannot provide a counter initiative. Its basic physics, the laws of the universe. You cannot apply force without some form of resistance. A golfer uses the ground, a car can only accelerate as hard as its tyres can grip, building can only go as high as the foundation can support. Your swing will have no concept of ground pressures otherwise you’d get why a more anchored swing can cope
I’ll leave you with one last thought. Set up to the ball and on your backswing (assuming you are a right hander) try to turn your right foot clockwise away from the target. Really try to churn up the ground beneath you. Try it barefoot or with shoes on, you’re foot shouldn’t move. Its the intention. You’ll notice a massive amount of torque all up your leg and coil throughout the body. try to overswing, its near impossible. You are rooted, and your ground forces are resisting any more turning.
@affirmation just a follow up… It works just the same throwing a punch, wind back against this resistance then spring off it. you’ll notice alot more force. All power comes from the ground up. Its human biomechanics. Its the same for ice hockey, cricket, baseball. I hope you give it a try and get where I’m coming from. Its free help any pro (Mark withstanding) will charge for
well I’m sorry, but the use of examples spacing between different sciences and points of interest are always used by open minded people who are able to find the hidden “correlations” scattered into this complex world. “Imagination is more important than knowledge” (A. Einstein) – Joyce also talked about “epiphanies”. Don’t stick rigidly to a few fixed concepts, because what you consider as your own “world” in reality might be only a small sparkle of sunlight… and please don’t be rude.
Why do cretins feel the need to try and talk like they’re Einstein (when they’re clearly not!) on these comments sections. Go back to stacking shelves or jerking off to the back cover of Michael Bubles album!
I’m not providing a counter initiative because there is no need for one – no one could keep up with the different directions your rambling is taking anyhow! lol
Presumably you can only get on here inbetween shifts at McDonalds!?
So you’re saying a golf ball and golfers swing has its own set of physics laws independent from the rest of the universe? Sorted ground pressures = sorted pivot. A good pivot frees up the room for your arms to swing on the proper path. You just can’t swing OTT with a good pivot. And that starts with ground pressures & footwork. Can’t put it any simpler. Its all linked, a snowball effect. I give up on this now because I don’t have time for someone who only wishes to throw around petty insults.
Jesus you put thought into those. Says it all. I’d get sucked in but its pretty obvious from your character & lack of intelligence that lifes hit you hard enough….”lol”
OMG you cannot comment on intelligence with no ability to recognise when someone is being facetious and the total shite you’ve been spouting – two fish reeled in and counting!! lol
Nice work Mark, great upload. And thanks for all you do free for the golfing community free of charge. I’m not in the uk that often but the next time I’m over I’m def going up for a lesson. Keep up the great work.
Over the top and lateral sliding….resolutions 2013…Urrrgghhh!
Mark, great video as always. I have a question about alignment. I can’t seem to get my club face set up square to the target line at address. I always seem to set up with my shoulders and hips squared up but the the club face closed (even though it feels square to me). Any tips on how to fight this perception that square “seems” open?
Hey Mark. Been trying to figure out my over the top for over a year now. In none of these things that you talk about. I’m an early extender too. But what about dropping the arms done at the top of the back swing to get on plane. Is that something to try or do?
Dropping down**
Thanks for answering my question Mark, I like the 2nd drill with the hips a lot and it has been a focus of mine as of late. As far as understanding face to path, I have a pretty good understanding of what you are saying there, but putting it into practice is something else. Anyways, I will try the drills as suggested.
cheers!
-Chris
Great tip in today’s golfer from sergio Garcia. Drop club at top of back swing before any further movement and you get a lovely small draw.
the only problem that I see day to day is that golfers can not drop the club at the top due to poor body turns and body side bends. The problem is a lot deeper for many golfers.
thanks for watching
Hi Mark. Thanks for bringing up my quostion. What you say about club head and path makes sence. Great drills - I will take it to the range, and yes, I can even practice “the hip drill
” at home. Thanks!!
hi mark,
what if your “coming over the top” but the clubface is closed or neutral to the path? it would be a pull, right (for right-handed golfers)!?
in that case the release would be fine, you just have to correct the path by coming from the inside by doing the second part of the fix, or droping the club like lain m said!?
regards p.
Hi Mark
Interesting video – I have a history of over-the-top nastiness resulting in throwing the club out during the downswing and an out-to-in swingpath. What really has helped me is stopping swinging down with my arms and turning my body instead – pulling my arms down and keeping the club on the right path. I had my best session at the range for a long time yesterday by keeping this single swing thought in my head – anyway – thats what seems to work for me.
Keep the good stuff coming
John
Sergio doesn’t ‘drop’ the club, he rotates his forearms clockwise to shallow out his swingplane
Hi Mark. From my experience 99% of OTT moves are the result of a lack of ground pressures & connection to the ground. The swing is a battle of forces vs pressure. If there is too much force OTT is the result. Think of building a skyscraper, if there is no foundation (ground pressure) it’ll collapse. The greater your ground pressures the more acceleration your swing can deal with, and the taller you can build that skyscraper! All the best, great to see someone helping golfers for free 🙂
He didnt say Sergio drops the club – he said Sergio gave a great tip about dropping the club as a thought ‘aid’ Everything else youve said in this and your other comment is, respectfully, bollox! lol
Does some one wish they were a golf Pro?
Please explain to me how its bollocks? Every pro on tour initiate’s transition by applying pressure into the ground. Any martial artist will tell you the same. You need to be rooted into the ground in order for an affective transferrence of power. power comes from the ground up. To answer you question, I’m not a pro, but I play off +1. I’ve earned this knowledge. All the best
hahahahaha more bollox
Im a black belt in putting!
Hmmm, skipping a debate are we because you are ignorant to the true workings of the swing? I’ll put it in car terms for you. Take a C63 AMG. It can only transfer as much power to the road as its tyres will allow. Too much torque and it’ll wheelspin. In a turn it’ll oversteer. An oversteering car will always arc out thanks to centrifugal force… OTT. Put some slicks on it and you raise the grip, thus the tyres can handle a greater loading. Anchor the swing right from set-up, trust me
not skipping a debate – there is no debate – what you say is irrellevant, just another sadwit using the anomonity of t’internet to seek some selth worth by purporting to be of authority. So far weve had expert amateur golfer, indication of some knowledge of martial arts and now the physics involved in high end cars!! lol youve just compared an oversteering car to someone swinging over the top!!! lmao You are a beautiful example of why cousins shouldn’t breed!
That answer is not relevant and a bit pathetic… if being incredibly good at putting is all the necessary for becoming a great player, than today’s golf has just become a dull game (and unfortunately… maybe it is)
hmmm way to miss the point!! I guess sarcasm doesn’t translate well in type. Is it even possible to have a black belt in putting? lol The sarcy comment was in response to the martial artist crap the other div was harking on about – I can only assume your the sibling spawned by the cousins from whose loins Nobbo also sprang forth from!
Wow what a pleasent person you must be. resulting to personal insults from the safety of a keyboard because you cannot provide a counter initiative. Its basic physics, the laws of the universe. You cannot apply force without some form of resistance. A golfer uses the ground, a car can only accelerate as hard as its tyres can grip, building can only go as high as the foundation can support. Your swing will have no concept of ground pressures otherwise you’d get why a more anchored swing can cope
I’ll leave you with one last thought. Set up to the ball and on your backswing (assuming you are a right hander) try to turn your right foot clockwise away from the target. Really try to churn up the ground beneath you. Try it barefoot or with shoes on, you’re foot shouldn’t move. Its the intention. You’ll notice a massive amount of torque all up your leg and coil throughout the body. try to overswing, its near impossible. You are rooted, and your ground forces are resisting any more turning.
@affirmation just a follow up… It works just the same throwing a punch, wind back against this resistance then spring off it. you’ll notice alot more force. All power comes from the ground up. Its human biomechanics. Its the same for ice hockey, cricket, baseball. I hope you give it a try and get where I’m coming from. Its free help any pro (Mark withstanding) will charge for
well I’m sorry, but the use of examples spacing between different sciences and points of interest are always used by open minded people who are able to find the hidden “correlations” scattered into this complex world. “Imagination is more important than knowledge” (A. Einstein) – Joyce also talked about “epiphanies”. Don’t stick rigidly to a few fixed concepts, because what you consider as your own “world” in reality might be only a small sparkle of sunlight… and please don’t be rude.
Yawn…
Why do cretins feel the need to try and talk like they’re Einstein (when they’re clearly not!) on these comments sections. Go back to stacking shelves or jerking off to the back cover of Michael Bubles album!
I’m not providing a counter initiative because there is no need for one – no one could keep up with the different directions your rambling is taking anyhow! lol
Presumably you can only get on here inbetween shifts at McDonalds!?
So you’re saying a golf ball and golfers swing has its own set of physics laws independent from the rest of the universe? Sorted ground pressures = sorted pivot. A good pivot frees up the room for your arms to swing on the proper path. You just can’t swing OTT with a good pivot. And that starts with ground pressures & footwork. Can’t put it any simpler. Its all linked, a snowball effect. I give up on this now because I don’t have time for someone who only wishes to throw around petty insults.
I’ve not been saying anything all along except that you clearly do not know what you are talking about! lol
They are not petty – they are thought through, nob jockey! lol
Jesus you put thought into those. Says it all. I’d get sucked in but its pretty obvious from your character & lack of intelligence that lifes hit you hard enough….”lol”
OMG you cannot comment on intelligence with no ability to recognise when someone is being facetious and the total shite you’ve been spouting – two fish reeled in and counting!! lol
There’s a difference between wit and throwing enough shit at a wall to see if any of it sticks. If that gives you satisfaction, please yourself.
Aww thanks and well done, self awareness is the first step to change! Maybe if you stop throwing shit you can become witty like me one day!
haha touche. nice reversal. first time you’ve actually made me laugh. perhaps there is hope for you after all
1:42 What was it that he stuck in the club face?? Magic?
cool video mate. really nicely explained… especially the second part of it. cheers