Ben Hogan Golf Swing Analysis

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johngolfi says:

good analys, I have almost all key moves in this swing. Any way can you do
a analys of Gary Players swing I would be grateful

Michael DeMorat says:

That would be best ball strikers on tour

secretogolf says:

Is it enough to make your lateral move left and assume that by bringing the
club down from this move W some shoulder /arm effort -that the hips will
turn properly.I ask, because this is what I feel happens as long as I keep
a fulcrum with left arm & arm pit.When I turn the hips prior to bringing
the club down,just after the lateral move it feels like I get a coming over
the top feel.So I am going lateral arms drop hips start on there own and
then finish to impact leading with handle of course.

Jamie Garnett says:

I just discovered this recently. I am actually a standard lie since I am 4
inches taller than Hogan. My swing isn’t perfect, but these angles are
clear and undeniable throughout my swing, the main difference of course
being I am taller, and a little bit “looser”, or as someone afraid of
offending me might say, “flexible”. haha. I am working on the
video/analysis now, but hopefully the way I explain it makes sense to
people. It justifies/reveals why Hogan did EVERYTHING he did during the set
up.

Jamie Garnett says:

If you stop hogans swing just after impact – specifically at the 5:14 mark
on this video, on the right hand frame – I notice that this appears to be
where his arms/hands most congruently match where he is at set up. I always
wondered why his arms, especially the left arm, appear to be relaxed..
almost slightly bent at address. His hands and arms were set at address to
where they would be immediately AFTER he released the club. If we had a
better camera, I bet that his hands are in this position

Kyle Roark says:

@AlexCzervic The problem with saying that the movement of the hands towards
the body is a trick of perspective surely can’t be correct because other
swings (Tiger for instance) will not produce a similar picture after
takeaway (or maybe you are referring to directly after impact?). Therefore
there must be something unique about Hogan’s swing that produces this
difference…Wayne correctly describes this difference as a movement toward
body/under shaft plane ect.

brad stecklein says:

Wayne, have you analyzed Dustin Johnson or Zach Johnson? Both have
interesting swings and a video or two might draw interest as a predecessor
to Ryder Cup!

Dave Rao says:

Excellent mention of tripods.

Dean Mitchell says:

I agree actually. I’ve spoken to and read a lot of Brad’s stuff. I also
really like what Martin Ayers has to say about Hogan.

brownnsbass says:

Shaft plane is only signifiicant at impact, it’s ultimately where the
clubhead goes, not the shaft. Shaft plane is not the swing plane.

Ez TheElf says:

Yes, but we don’t know the dimensions of Hogan’s barrel. The important
point is that Hogan felt as if he was rotating even if he did slide quite a
bit. He simply had a wider barrel; you can’t take it literally.

HabloIrlandes says:

Hi Wayne, thanks again for the analysis. Just for my own understanding you
mention that at address the club shaft is at 53°, when his left arm is
parallel to the ground his shaft plane is 57° and at the top his shaft
plane is 67° so increments of 4° all the way to the top. My question is
does the club then retain those same angles on the way back to the ball
meaning when his left arm is parallel on the way down the club shaft will
be at 57° and will be 53° again at impact? Thanks.

brikaakos says:

Hello Wayne,i would like to ask you about Hogan’s impact from face on. We
see how that knee kolaps, we don’t want it like this right? we prefer to
have it straight right?

brad stecklein says:

Wayne, have you analyzed Dustin Johnson or Zach Johnson? Both have
interesting swings and a video or two might draw interest as a predecessor
to Ryder Cup!

Michael DeMorat says:

Love the videos Wayne. I would love to see an analysis of John senden’s
swing. John has been one of the beat ball strikers on your in the last ten
years

brad stecklein says:

Mr. Francisco, have you analyzed Zach Johnson or Dustin Johnson? Both have
interesting things happening at top of swing. And a video or two might draw
interest as a nice predecessor to Ryder Cup!

bunkerputt says:

The hand suddenly appearing at 3:39 freaked me out.

Wayne Defrancesco says:

@HabloIrlandes Not really. With a combination of stresses from the forward
movement and rotation the shaft is affected in a number of ways that aren’t
consistent from player to player. Wrist action and grip also play a role,
as does the eventual impact area alignments

brad stecklein says:

Mr. Francisco, have you analyzed Zach Johnson or Dustin Johnson. Both have
interesting things happening at top of swing. And a video or two might draw
interest as a nice predecessor to Ryder Cup!

Jamie Garnett says:

(cont)… when the club face actually hits the ball. Unfortunately the
frames per second on the older cameras are a joke compared to now, so we
can’t see clearly. But, because of the excessive lag and actual bending of
the club that he created, in the instant before the image we see at the
5:14 mark, his hands would be in nearly the same position, but the club
would be bent so much that the club face is actually making contact with
the ball THEN, shaft snaps back to straight and we see 5:14 shot

Alexander Pollock says:

I know it has nothing to do with the video, but can you explain what S&T is
and why armchair golfers obsess over it so much?

Nightwing690 says:

best swing techincally and fundamentally, noone could or can swings like
Hogan except Hogan himself

justjames1111 says:

Nice analysis once again. Ben Hogan was a great player, but once again we
see an example of what a player, even a great one, ‘feels’ not being what
he does. He once described himself ‘feeling’ like he was ‘swinging within a
barrel’, but you can clearly see that esp. on the transition he really
moves outside the box/barrel. Just shows once again how important the mind
is in creating a great golf swing.

Jamie Garnett says:

I feel like most amateurs envision the weight transfer both during the back
and down swing as a lateral motion, which is completely flawed. The weight
shift happens from rotation on the way back, then shifts diagonally toward
the ball/target, but not necessarily DOWN the target line. Sounds cheesy,
but anyone who is reading this, pretend you’re ice skating or skiing,
actually DO the motion, and you’ll see how you’re throwing your weight side
to side, catching yourself. That’s how it should feel.

Jamie Garnett says:

I teach – backswing in the barel… but then try to break OUT of the
barrel jumping toward the ball, off your right foot. Since your feet are
anchored obviously you don’t actually jump, but this is the sensation that
seems to gett people to do it, at least when I’m teaching them. Most people
simply don’t understand and, many times, have been misinformed about what
the weight transfer is. If you can throw a baseball with at least SOME
power to another person/target, you can golf… very well.

Wayne Defrancesco says:

Al: Please enlighten me as to the errors my analysis is fraught with. Nice
use of the word “fraught” by the way.

Rory Bills says:

I like the way you explain all the players in your videos. But what makes
the head go down?. On the backswing and the downswing/? I am 15 yrs old and
I would like to copy this.

David Schultz says:

@AlexCzervic i agree. i’ve been looking to it for answers for a long time,
ever since i started playing. along with mike maves’ (sevam1) insight, i’m
finally getting it. you don’t try to swing like hogan, but after a period
of time practicing you find out as you get better that hogan did lay
everything on the table with 5 lessons. hogan did not lie or cover anything
up, it’s just written from his perspective as a player. feel will differ
from player to player, simply because it has to.

Jamie Garnett says:

From just….WAY too many hours of watching this swing, I believe he
actually squeezes his knees at the transition point, beginning the forward
shift. This only works if you do it in conjunction with “pushing off” of
the inside of your right foot, toward the ball. Simple sensation when done
properly. Sounds wordy.. But, basically, squeeze knees, but do so feeling
the weight go more in FRONT of you, toward the ball. Your left side will
catch the momentum and you’ll end up tall on your left side.

Dean Mitchell says:

Likewise. 🙂

TooneySonic says:

Dan Whittakers’ is a good analysis but Bradley Hughes really explains
Hogans action even better. Check out his channel Golf Aus, full of golden
nuggets

Jamie Garnett says:

Oh, and a note to all. If you are moving the ball around in your stance
from club to club, you’re making life very difficult. If Hogan taught us
all one thing and one thing only, I would venture to guess it would be….
well… other than the grip… it would be maintaining the orientation of
the ball to your left side at address. When we fully release our bodies,
the wrist release point remains the same. So, keep it just inside the left
heel folks. Widen that stance as the club gets longer.

tpcrjm17 says:

Shaft plane IS one of the acceptable swing planes and represents the
flattest possible plane angle variation. The right forearm traces this line
in the backswing and again at impact. The right elbow rides down the shaft
plane post transition into impact. Its definitely a plane and definitely
relative at other points than impact.

TooneySonic says:

Three top tier coaches mentioned there. I’d include John Erickson & Bob
Torrance too as those who really understand ‘Hogan Mechanics’ for lack of a
better phase. All the best 🙂

AlexCzervic says:

The main point of this analysis, creating space, is sound. The majority of
the rest is fraught with error. The first misinterpretation is of the hands
moving towards body, it is a trick of perspective induced by rotation.
There are many others.

sandman4224 says:

Another observation to ponder. Notice how Hogan is attacking the ball like
a baseball player to a pitched ball – he studied Ruth and Williams. Both of
these power hitters used the rear arm/hand (dominant) to drive the ball
with the front arm/hand (passive) only used as a guide into the moment of
impact. Golf’s equivalent to baseball is that a golfer tries to hit a line
drive up the middle every time (for most shots). Remember, Hogan wished he
had three right hands when driving into the ball. He fixed his hooking
problem by changing his grip and setup without changing his attack into the
ball.

sandman4224 says:

Look at his setup in the caddie view. Look at how the shaft matches his
spine – almost like an extension of it. The perfect use of centrifugal
force for the club head.

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